Comments on: Another Medieval Prayer Book Reveals Greek Scientific Knowledge http://www.danharlow.com/blog/2007/10/09/another-medieval-prayer-book-reveals-greek-scientific-knowledge/ L'art de la vie Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:18:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: bipolar2 http://www.danharlow.com/blog/2007/10/09/another-medieval-prayer-book-reveals-greek-scientific-knowledge/#comment-763 bipolar2 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:50:40 +0000 http://www.danharlow.com/blog/2007/10/09/another-medieval-prayer-book-reveals-greek-scientific-knowledge/#comment-763 wow! the trolls descended on you. i'd say killing off rational philosophy and scientific inquiry for 1,000 years was a long enough run for xianity. how many of you trolls would like to give up modern medicine? would you like to turn the clock back just 100 years when not one important disease could be cured? •• Junk-food faith for a fat-head nation •• *Super-size me Jesus!* A nation overwhelmingly god-fearing also overwhelmingly rejects science. Millions lack the critical intelligence to evaluate the garbage they put into their brains. Sarah Palin is the latest one of them to advance an anti-intellectual crusade in the name of Jesus. The US is an aberration among developed nations in its affinity for xian enthusiasms and in its failure to accept now elementary basic truths like evolution via natural selection. • On the road to internal exile America the free? Nonsense. I am an atheist, an *anti-supernaturalist* to be precise. Therefore, I belong to the most despised minority in the US. Why according to GHW Bush, I'm not fit to be a citizen. I'll tolerate fundies only when everyone's "freedom of conscience" under the US Constitution is restored and respected. The US is still a secular state which has the misfortune of selective amnesia towards the political ideology of christo-fascism, dominionism. Before election day read Margaret Atwood’s dystopian novel about a xian state in America in “The Handmaid's Tale.” • religious cover for frauds, pedophiles, and plotters The US has been a secular state from its inception. It is *not* one nation under a non-existent god. Nor under child molesting priests, nor under fanatical tax-dodging televangelists, nor under cabals of delusional fundies (dominionists) seeking to overthrow the Republic. The people are sovereign. (for now.) bipolar2 ©2008 wow! the trolls descended on you. i’d say killing off rational philosophy and scientific inquiry for 1,000 years was a long enough run for xianity.

how many of you trolls would like to give up modern medicine? would you like to turn the clock back just 100 years when not one important disease could be cured?

•• Junk-food faith for a fat-head nation ••

*Super-size me Jesus!*

A nation overwhelmingly god-fearing also overwhelmingly rejects science. Millions lack the critical intelligence to evaluate the garbage they put into their brains. Sarah Palin is the latest one of them to advance an anti-intellectual crusade in the name of Jesus.

The US is an aberration among developed nations in its affinity for xian enthusiasms and in its failure to accept now elementary basic truths like evolution via natural selection.

• On the road to internal exile

America the free? Nonsense. I am an atheist, an *anti-supernaturalist* to be precise. Therefore, I belong to the most despised minority in the US. Why according to GHW Bush, I’m not fit to be a citizen.

I’ll tolerate fundies only when everyone’s “freedom of conscience” under the US Constitution is restored and respected. The US is still a secular state which has the misfortune of selective amnesia towards the political ideology of christo-fascism, dominionism. Before election day read Margaret Atwood’s dystopian novel about a xian state in America in “The Handmaid’s Tale.”

• religious cover for frauds, pedophiles, and plotters

The US has been a secular state from its inception. It is *not* one nation under a non-existent god. Nor under child molesting priests, nor under fanatical tax-dodging televangelists, nor under cabals of delusional fundies (dominionists) seeking to overthrow the Republic.

The people are sovereign. (for now.)

bipolar2 ©2008

]]> By: Gunter http://www.danharlow.com/blog/2007/10/09/another-medieval-prayer-book-reveals-greek-scientific-knowledge/#comment-762 Gunter Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:23:24 +0000 http://www.danharlow.com/blog/2007/10/09/another-medieval-prayer-book-reveals-greek-scientific-knowledge/#comment-762 Yeah, what they said :D I was going to type a clever response but the folks above did a better job than I would be able to. Suffice to say that you've expressed a narrow view here. There's more to the history of the world than the speed of scientific advancement. It's richer than that - and Christianity brought about much of that richness. Good article otherwise ;-) Yeah, what they said :D
I was going to type a clever response but the folks above did a better job than I would be able to. Suffice to say that you’ve expressed a narrow view here. There’s more to the history of the world than the speed of scientific advancement. It’s richer than that - and Christianity brought about much of that richness. Good article otherwise ;-)

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]]> By: Reality Handbook http://www.danharlow.com/blog/2007/10/09/another-medieval-prayer-book-reveals-greek-scientific-knowledge/#comment-381 Reality Handbook Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:51:50 +0000 http://www.danharlow.com/blog/2007/10/09/another-medieval-prayer-book-reveals-greek-scientific-knowledge/#comment-381 Destruction takes many forms. Many industrialists, not acting on any kind of religious impulse, have used very scientific means to develop and shape cities...meanwhile destroying natural habitats. This loss of species has sacrificed a lot of native plant and animal species which might have contained a great amount of information. So religion isn't the only culprit. Without a time machine, we can't say what the world might have been like without the influence of Christianity. Who knows, we might have ended up overrun by Vikings or Mongols or something even worse--possibly enabled by science to build greater weapons. One needs a good mix of parable and technology. In short, mathematical knowledge has been no panacea. So I'll trade a true spiritual revolution in the mind of mankind for knowing for sure how many jelly beans are in any given jar. Though my bias in this case is probably to side with you and say that it wasn't worth it for this particular work of philosophy to overwrite that particular work of math... Destruction takes many forms. Many industrialists, not acting on any kind of religious impulse, have used very scientific means to develop and shape cities…meanwhile destroying natural habitats. This loss of species has sacrificed a lot of native plant and animal species which might have contained a great amount of information. So religion isn’t the only culprit.

Without a time machine, we can’t say what the world might have been like without the influence of Christianity. Who knows, we might have ended up overrun by Vikings or Mongols or something even worse–possibly enabled by science to build greater weapons. One needs a good mix of parable and technology.

In short, mathematical knowledge has been no panacea. So I’ll trade a true spiritual revolution in the mind of mankind for knowing for sure how many jelly beans are in any given jar. Though my bias in this case is probably to side with you and say that it wasn’t worth it for this particular work of philosophy to overwrite that particular work of math…

]]> By: doug rosbury http://www.danharlow.com/blog/2007/10/09/another-medieval-prayer-book-reveals-greek-scientific-knowledge/#comment-380 doug rosbury Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:16:19 +0000 http://www.danharlow.com/blog/2007/10/09/another-medieval-prayer-book-reveals-greek-scientific-knowledge/#comment-380 Religion and spirituality are not the same thing. There is nothing that is not godly, since all things have their existence "within" God. A religion is a way of life. To be religious about how you think of computer programming is one example, therefore, The term "religion" has less to do with spiritual matters than with how you approach anything. To claim that religion has spiritual authority is to confer upon religion an importance which is false. Spiritual matters are the sole concern of the individual who finds within his or her heart, the only legitimate and real connection with the realms of spirit. Religion is the concern of those seeking power over the thoughts of those who dwell in a world of self doubt. One who knows that God dwells within the human heart will not give others the power to control how he or she thinks and lives. Therefore as someone once said,: "Religion is the opiate of the people" In other words A refuge from real thinking and The freedom to live as a sovereign individual.------Doug Rosbury Religion and spirituality are not the same thing.
There is nothing that is not godly, since all things have their existence “within” God. A religion is a way of life. To be religious about how you think of
computer programming is one example, therefore, The term “religion” has less to do with spiritual matters than with how you approach anything. To claim that religion has spiritual authority is to confer upon
religion an importance which is false. Spiritual matters are the sole concern of the individual who
finds within his or her heart, the only legitimate and real connection with the realms of spirit. Religion is the concern of those seeking power over the thoughts of those who dwell in a world of self doubt. One
who knows that God dwells within the human heart will
not give others the power to control how he or she thinks and lives. Therefore as someone once said,:
“Religion is the opiate of the people” In other words
A refuge from real thinking and The freedom to live as a sovereign individual.——Doug Rosbury

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